“ It might make sense just to get some in case it catches on.
If enough people think the same way, that becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Once it gets bootstrapped, there are so many applications if you could effortlessly pay a few cents to a website as easily as dropping coins in a vending machine. ”
Get some in case it catches on
“ In this sense, it’s more typical of a precious metal.
Instead of the supply changing to keep the value the same, the supply is predetermined and the value changes.
As the number of users grows, the value per coin increases.
It has the potential for a positive feedback loop; as users increase, the value goes up, which could attract more users to take advantage of the increasing value. ”
Potential for a positive feedback loop
“ Maybe it could get an initial value circularly as you’ve suggested, by people foreseeing its potential usefulness for exchange. (I would definitely want some)
Maybe collectors, any random reason could spark it.
I think the traditional qualifications for money were written with the assumption that there are so many competing objects in the world that are scarce, an object with the automatic bootstrap of intrinsic value will surely win out over those without intrinsic value.
But if there were nothing in the world with intrinsic value that could be used as money, only scarce but no intrinsic value, I think people would still take up something. (I’m using the word scarce here to only mean limited potential supply) ”
“ A rational market price for something that is expected to increase in value will already reflect the present value of the expected future increases. “
Rational market price
” In your head, you do a probability estimate balancing the odds that it keeps increasing. ”
Probability
“ I’m sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume. ”
In 20 Years
“ Bitcoins have no dividend or potential future dividend, therefore not like a stock.
More like a collectible or commodity.“
Collectible vs Commodity
” [Lengthy exposition of vulnerability of a systm to use-of-force monopolies ellided.]
You will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography.Yes, but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years.
Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own. “
Pure P2P networks
” It’s very attractive to the libertarian viewpoint if we can explain it properly.
I’m better with code than with words though. “
Libertarian Viewpoint
” The proof-of-work is a Hashcash style SHA-256 collision finding.
It’s a memoryless process where you do millions of hashes a second, with a small chance of finding one each time.
The 3 or 4 fastest nodes’ dominance would only be proportional to their share of the total CPU power.
Anyone’s chance of finding a solution at any time is proportional to their CPU power.
There will be transaction fees, so nodes will have an incentive to receive and include all the transactions they can.
Nodes will eventually be compensated by transaction fees alone when the total coins created hits the pre-determined ceiling. “
Transactions Fees
” Right, it’s ECC digital signatures.
A new key pair is used for eveey transaction.
It’s not pseudonymous in the sense of nyms identifying people, but it is at least a little pseudonymous in that the next action on a coin can be identified as being from the owner of that coin.”
Pseudonymous
Bitcoin is a new electronic cash system that uses a peer-to-peer
network to prevent double-spending.It’s completely decentralized
New electronic cash system
with no server or central authority
Total circulation will be 21,000,000 coins.
It’ll be distributed to network nodes when they make blocks, with the amount cut in half every 4 years
first 4 years: 10,500,000 coins
next 4 years: 5,250,000 coins
next 4 years: 2,625,000 coins
next 4 years: 1,312,500 coins
etc…When that runs out, the system can support transaction fees if needed.
It’s based on open market competition, and there will probably always be nodes willing to process transactions for free.
Open Market Competition
” I would be surprised if 10 years from now we’re not using electronic currency in some way, now that we know a way to do it that won’t inevitably get dumbed down when the trusted third party gets cold feet.
It could get started in a narrow niche like reward points, donation tokens, currency for a game or micropayments for adult sites.
Initially it can be used in proof-of-work applications for services that could almost be free but not quite.
POW applications
It can already be used for pay-to-send e-mail.
The send dialog is resizeable and you can enter as long of a message as you like.
It’s sent directly when it connects.
The recipient doubleclicks on the transaction to see the full message.
If someone famous is getting more e-mail than they can read, but would still like to have a way for fans to contact them, they could set up Bitcoin and give out the IP address on their website. “
Pay-to-Send Email
“Send X bitcoins to my priority hotline at this IP and I’ll read the message personally.”
Send bitcoin
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